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PostSubject: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:14 pm

Herr von Daniken has written a new book where he shows the best evidence for the ancient astronaut theory. Chock full of color photo plates, this book is a short but good read. I think it would be a great subject for your book club.

Do you think Herr von Daniken makes his case well?

Evidence of the Gods (2013, New Page Books) by Erich von Daniken

http://www.newpagebooks.com/

Also available at all book stores and some libraries.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:54 pm

thank you for sharing that.. he had more than one book out this past year didn't he?
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:55 pm

He had a few others printed in English as well as new books. Evidence is his latest book and is the one where he states his case. The others are interesting, but this is the one that makes a great debate as to whether or not the case is there.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:02 pm

it is nice to see there is still new evidence out there..some of the evidence on tv, books, magazines is the same re-hashed stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:18 pm

I also like the fact many researchers are putting forward their best cases to show the evidence for the theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:31 am

I am not sure of any new evidence regarding the Betty and Barney Hill star map but i still get chills thinking about her drawing it and then years later the scientists finding out these places DO exist. I was telling my nephew about it last night. He loves science and will be studying Physics at University when he goes. He loves all things science and space related. He of course loves to debate me on things concerning a preternatural nature but after listening to some of my recent EVP recordings he is a little less skeptical. =0)
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:32 pm

Lt Col Kevin Randle suggested some astronomers out there find the red dwarfs out there that correlate to the Star Map. When they first did the chart, they ignored the red dwarfs.

Most astronomers now agree red dwarfs would be the best stars to have planets in their habitable zones. The stars live very long lives and are extremely stable.

I do think the Betty and Barney Hill case is one of the best ones that suggest visitation and abduction. This was done way before abductions were part of our pop culture and it is very untainted by the influence of any other incident.

I hope Universal will release the DVD of the movie The UFO Incident which was based on the Hill case. Many claim Travis Walton saw the movie and then decided to have his own 'abduction'. The movie aired to one of the highest ratings in history. Estelle Parsons and James Earl Jones played the couple.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:06 pm

I don't know if I think Travis Walton was lying - I think he makes a good case at least from the Psychological stand point. His story never changes. usually if someone is lying about something they often change their story and he has not. I just don't know..
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:48 pm

I am still up in the air about Mr Walton's story myself. There are some very interesting parts about it that I think need looking into. If it was a hoax, one of the persons involved would of cashed in by now.

There are many problems with the case such as the cover-up of the first lie detector test. The researchers should of just stated some people don't always pass those tests. Instead, they tried to keep it from becoming public knowledge. When it did, they trashed the man who administered it.

Then there is the fact that the other witnesses never really saw the craft. They saw a light and were told by the driver of the truck (who many say was in on it if it was a hoax) the craft was approaching them.

It is a weaker case when it comes to the evidence which is why I think cases like the Hills should be the ones pushed by advocates of these ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:09 pm

My boyfriend was complaining that there was no conspiracy section on here. anyone that knows me knows i am a huge ahhh la la when it comes to conspiracy theories.. they have one for everything.. but he is obsessed with that Sandy Hook conspiracy stuff. some of it if true is very compelling. so who knows. What can you do?
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:23 pm

I think a conspiracy board might be doable. But there are so many conspiracies out there to deal with. (I do think the Sandy Hook ones are going a bit too far. I don't see our government murdering young children just to ban assault weapons.)
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:11 am

No what they were actually saying with Sandy Hook is that the kids aren't dead at all.. that they are actors. (smh)
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:39 pm

I am betting those who lost their children would say otherwise. Can you imagine such a loss only to read from some idiot still living in Mom's basement promoting the theory her baby is still alive and an actor? (I must admit I haven't read the conspiracy theory surrounding the event. I am glad I didn't.)

Some conspiracy ideas have real merit (JFK, Shadow Government, HAARP, UFO Coverups etc), but it is the Sandy Hook types that get us the bad name of kooks.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:21 pm

I often wonder who is this crazy.. ? and if you actually look at the videos on Youtube it is certainly odd that a lot of the sites have a date of the day before.. like the fb pages dedicated to lost loved ones and the charity organizations that were founded because of it were all done before the shooting.. I can not vouche they didn't do something to edit it out.. and of course those pages were taken down..

they are claiming NEW WORLD ORDER.. the only one that seems odd is the guy on tape laughing and saying "Oh are we on yet..?" the camera man nods and the guy - on cew starts crying.. it is weird.. but do I think it happened yes- I do.. why? who knows.. I think the strange things around it are making people think these thoughts. I didn't post these things here because I was afraid I'd offend people but you can look online on youtube for yourself.. I will say that video was definitly strange.. and I HATE CONSPIRACIES>> mainly because you will never know if they really are cover ups.. =0)
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:51 pm

I did watch a few of the conspiracy theories and they seemed pretty honest and up front about their questions. Then I watched Anderson Cooper respond to many of those accusations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNhjq0xBmyw

The mystery man who was handcuffed has been identified as Mr Cooper states. I think that is a mystery solved.

There seems to be a lot of people out there analyzing a family photo of a little girl and her family. Some of the suspicious allegations make sense while others don't.

I do think people will see a conspiracy in anything. The ultimate goal of this one is gun control in their mind. However, it won't pass the Republican controlled House or the Senate as they don't have the 60 votes needed to pass such laws.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:09 pm

I think responsible gun owners get the bad end of the deal.. but they should never think guys used in war are okay to just have laying around your house.. right to bear arms doesn't mean a military machine gun..it is crazy to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:10 pm

I do think if people want automatic weapons they should at least apply for a special license. Most states require dog and cat breeders to get such licenses, why not for a weapon solely made for the purpose of slaughter during wartime.

I do support the right to own guns as I have owned a few myself in the past. I also support the right of conspiracy theorists to say what they want to no matter how strange or even vile it is. Free speech is not always pretty.

I do think Erich von Daniken should know about this as his early books and ideas were so viciously attacked when they came out. It is not as bad as it was then, but there still are sites set up just to attack his ideas with no answers of their own.

In other words, us in the alternative ideas world have to be diligent when it comes to these ideas and any attacks on the conspiracy theorists. Yes, there are some kooks out there but they need the same protections we do or our ideas will be the next target for censorship.
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:25 pm

I agree.. just for that comment Mercury I am creating a section just for the conspiracy thinker.. but I may call it something else..
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PostSubject: Re: Erich von Daniken's Evidence of the Gods   Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:51 pm

I have now put up five topics to start in the conspiracy board. There are so many other ideas out there I hope others will join in with theirs. The ones I put up are interesting to me and some are controversial.

I also put up a thread of rules to follow so people who join in the future will behave themselves. The members we have on now are wonderful and have open minds. It is the unknown ones we have to be careful about.
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